Wilderness Edge Podcast
For people who are curious about communities on the edge of the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness.
Join our host, Lacey Squier, for juicy conversations with area residents and all who have a heart-home “up north.” We offer dialogue about what gives northeastern Minnesota the edge, as well as some real talk about the sometimes-sharp edges of living in remote and rural locations.
Wilderness Edge Podcast
Broadway in the BW & Ely Must-Do’s
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Visiting Ely? Let the folks who live here help you decide what to do while you're in the area! Repertory theater professionals living in Ely for the summer -- Olivia, Dovid, Austin, and Jacob -- talk through the Ely area tourism MUST-DO's as suggested by the Tuesday Group audience.
But, wait... what's Tuesday Group? Tuesday Group is a free, weekly educational forum that takes place over lunch at the Grand Ely Lodge. If you're in town on a Tuesday, swing by the Grand Ely Lodge between 11:30am and 1:00pm to meet a few people, learn something new, and enjoy lunch.
Eager to get to a specific topic? Here's the breakdown of our conversation:
1:30 | Jacob, Olivia, Dovid, & Austin introduce themselves
9:08 | The Ely audience is passionate and interactive; they go beyond surface level.
11:23 | Word of mouth makes the world go 'round.
13:00 | Discussing themes in NLAA's Oklahoma! What made our local production unique?
20:10 | What should we know about NLAA's forthcoming production of Jesus Christ Superstar?
30:01 | Must-Do Activities in Ely: Have a leisurely afternoon on a pontoon
33:02 | International Wolf Center & North American Bear Center
35:07 | Meet the Root Beer Lady at the Dorothy Molter Museum
38:07 | Ely's Historic State Theater -- $7 movies!!!
40:20 | Ely Steam Sauna ("sow-na")
42:48 | Admire the d'Havilland Beavers at the USFS Seaplane Base on Shagawa Lake
44:12 | Semers Park Beach & Adventures on the islands
45:15 | Find a favorite rock, maybe pillow rock??
46:46 | Ely Winton History Museum at MN North Vermilion Campus
48:24 | Bois Forte Heritage Center & Cultural Museum
48:48 | Find Your Listening Point -- Sigurd Olson's Listening Point
49:13 | Best Hikes in Ely
52:10 | Soudan Underground Mine Tour
54:38 | What do YOU think should be on the Ely-area tourism must-do list??
56:05 | Take an Ely Folk School Class! (But what even is a folk school?)
59:16 | See a Northern Lakes Arts Association (NLAA) production!!
Boundary Waters Connect -- Considering moving to northeast Minnesota? Let us help you! We offer programs and services for new, established, and prospective residents to strengthen our social fabric.
NLAA Presents Newsies, Jr -- Two shows only! Friday, July 3
NLAA Presents Jesus Christ Superstar -- Buy your tickets today! Various shows July 17-26
Northern Lakes Arts Association -- The Northern Lakes Arts Association (NLAA) is a premier arts & cultural nonprofit organization in Ely. NLAA was one of the founding organizations of the Ely Cultural Alliance.
Ely Cultural Alliance -- Offering a summer passport program! Pick up a copy of the Ely Summer Times, and find our passport in the centerfold. Secure stamps from each participating loction to enter a drawing for a prize basket. Attend the Ely Cultural Alliance Toast to the Season event on Sunday, September 13.
Judan Underground Mind Tour.
Dovid AdlerI wanna go so bad.
Lacey SquierMe and Dovid have been.
Dovid AdlerYeah, we went two years ago and it was really, really cool.
Lacey SquierDid your guide sing to you?
Dovid AdlerWhat? Sing like a song in specific? Or just throughout the thing? Miles underground and it was freezing down there. Terribly cold. Yeah, it was it was definitely one of my favorite days of that first summer I was here.
Olivia SauerbergI've never seen anything like that before in my entire life.
Dovid AdlerA singing Torga.
Jacob StevensI was just gonna say it sounds like a job for you. I was like, I'm a little intrigued.
Lacey SquierWelcome to Wilderness Edge, a podcast for people who are curious about communities on the edge of the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness. My name is Lacey Squire, and I invite you to join me in conversation with a group of professional theater artists who are spending the summer in Ely as part of the Northern Lakes Arts Association's Broadway in the Boundary Waters cast. We'll talk through a list of tourism must-dos in the Ely area, as well as the cast's first impressions of life on the edge of the wilderness. Hey friends.
Olivia SauerbergHey.
Lacey SquierOh my gosh, this is gonna be so delightful. I wonder
Jacob, Olivia, Dovid, & Austin introduce themselves
Lacey Squierif you'd be willing to take turns and introduce yourselves to our listeners.
Jacob StevensYes. Okay, I can start. Um hello everyone. Um my name is Jacob Stevens, and this is my first year at Northern Lakes Arts Association, and um I'm playing Jod Fry in Oklahoma and Caiaphys in Jesus Christ Superstar.
Olivia SauerbergCool. Thanks. Hey everyone, I'm Olivia Sauerberg. Um, this is my third summer with Northern Lakes. Um, and I am playing Lori in Oklahoma and Mary Magdalene in Jesus Christ Superstar.
Lacey SquierThird summer. I know. Welcome back. Thanks.
Dovid AdlerWhat's up, Ely? Um, my name is David Adler. Um, this is also my third summer in Ely with Northern Lakes Arts Association. I'm playing Cord Elum in Oklahoma and Jesus in Jesus Christ Superstar.
Lacey SquierJesus? Can you get like a three-peat star or something like that from the Northern Lakes Arts Association for coming back?
Dovid AdlerI'm gonna ask Ian.
Lacey SquierYeah, yeah. You should. We gotta get you some sort of like glass table desktop golden record thing. Yes, drinks.
Austin AndersonMaybe a cross, don't you think?
Lacey SquierMaybe. What a fitting, what a fitting thing. Right.
Austin AndersonHi everybody. My name is Austin Anderson. This is my surprisingly second year um at the Northern Lake Arts Association. Um, I was here for Into the Woods, and so I'm happy to be back doing um JCS as uh Judas and Oklahoma's Allie Hackham.
Lacey SquierDo the thing. Can you sing it?
Austin AndersonOh what a Allie Hackham. Jesus Christ, I can do Ali Hockey.
Lacey SquierSorry if that was undue pressure. I had never seen Oklahoma, and that was a very like memorable little bit of your character. That was a very uh very fun uh character that you brought to life.
Austin AndersonI don't know if it's a through line in many productions of Oklahoma, but here Ian really lets us um experiment to our our fullest extent.
Lacey SquierWell, I did sort of have that, I as you heard me say, I hadn't seen Oklahoma before, and it I left thinking like, I think that there were some elements that were unique to this production. 100%. I had a lot of curiosities about you know what what was driven by Ian as a director and what was driven by this cast in particular, and I just found myself feeling very curious about you know our local adaptation and and what was different about it compared to other renditions of Oklahoma.
Speaker 4Oh yeah.
Lacey SquierAnd I thoroughly enjoyed it. I thoroughly enjoyed it. But okay, let's circle back to Oklahoma. In the meantime, I want to I want to keep learning a little bit about y'all. I'm curious, like, what was your exposure to Ely and other Wilderness Edge communities before you became acquainted, or like before you got booked as cast members through the Northern Lakes Arts Association? Did you have any awareness of these communities or or was this your introduction to them?
Jacob StevensUm I'm this is Jacob speaking, by the way. I don't know if I have to say that probably not. Um I'm actually from Minnesota. I grew up born and raised um from Minnesota, actually Sleepy Eye, Minnesota, if anyone's listening, um, from shout out.
Lacey SquierWe love our southern Minnesota community.
Jacob StevensYes, of course. Um, so I have always like known of Ely as like the marker of that's like boundary waters territory, you know. I had never been up here before though, and so it is very lovely to experience the beautiful scenery and just everything that the northern Minnesota wilderness has to offer. Um, not that I've explored it all, but you know, I think there's definitely more to do.
Lacey SquierIt'd be hard to explore it all.
Jacob StevensYeah.
Lacey Squier1175 likes, y'all. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Just a few. Just a few. Just a few. How about y'all?
Olivia SauerbergI had never been. I I feel like as theater actors in these like professional contracts, we kind of go to places we would have never gone to before. Yes. Um, like I've spent a time in Iowa, I've spent time in like it's kind of you go all over the place wherever it takes you. Um, so it's really nice to be here, and like as someone who like lives in New York City, it's a very different energy and like the most refreshing and and soul inspiring way. Uh I think.
Lacey SquierI love to hear it. That's kind of I mean, I think of that as New York City though. I'm like, I want to go to New York City and that would be so refreshing and soul inspiring. Yeah, buildings for like for like five days, maybe yeah, then you're ready to get out of there.
Olivia SauerbergYeah, yeah.
Dovid AdlerYeah. I also had never been to Minnesota before 2024.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Dovid AdlerUm, and I didn't really know what to expect, but it's been really lovely. And I spent some time in upstate New York, so lots of trees up there and woods and such. So I I was used to that. Um, but it's been really, really lovely to be in Ely.
Austin AndersonI would have said no, but thinking about it, I feel like before and afterwards of working here the first time, uh, I had been to Montana before. I'd been in Big Fork, which is almost very similar, like this. Like it's very close to Kalispell and Whitefish and Glacier National Park. And so being around like this amount of wilderness isn't out of the ordinary for me. And so I feel like being here is so refreshing because sometimes you get asked to do a show in the middle of Pennsylvania where it's Amish country, and you know, there's people who are riding in horse and buggy compared to like, you know, just finding, you know, deer deer and wildlife just right in the smack dab of zups. Is it zuops? Zoops. Well, zups.
Lacey SquierI mean it's the zuponsich family.
Austin AndersonThe zupons family.
Lacey SquierZupponsich, yep. But I mean, colloquially, people call it zups.
Austin AndersonZups.
Lacey SquierYou're in good company. In about who really knows Ponswitch.
Austin AndersonYeah.
Lacey SquierI love her.
Austin AndersonYeah. So, but no, I I love I love being in Ely because I think very much like what Olivia said, it's so nice to be in a quiet and welcoming area when comparatively to New York City, where there's like what 8.3 million people. I feel like I've never seen that all. Yeah, you're right. You know, compared to 3,000, I feel like I've gotten 3,000 hellos compared to 8.3 million smiles, even. Yeah. So it's it's so so interesting to see the the push and pull and what makes being in like a uh a town so far away from like the cities like very special in a way.
Lacey SquierWell, and how cool that your careers, your lives just afford you the ability to go from place to place and sort of challenges you to identify what's beautiful about each place, even if it's not an obvious kind of beauty, or I don't know, like thinking of middle of nowhere Pennsylvania or rural Iowa, like I don't I love uh I love prairie land and a rolling hill and small town.
Speaker 4Right.
Lacey SquierUm what's like I don't know, now I just have all these questions about like the weirdest places you've ever had to go, or like, or how does Ely
The Ely audience is passionate and interactive; they go beyond surface level.
Lacey Squierwhat what's different or unique? Have you observed anything about the Ely audience that stands apart from other audiences?
Dovid AdlerThey're very passionate. Since we're able to like uh get into an assembly line and shake everyone's hand after the shows, you really get to hear everyone's opinion. And uh they're some of the most passionate like audience members I've met. And that's really refreshing. A lot of people just don't care. They're gonna leave and they're just gonna be like, oh, you know, let's go get ice cream.
Jacob StevensBut they love to share their experience with you. Yes. Like I play Judd Fry, who, if you haven't seen Oklahoma, is a villain. And um, but but I I think, and I think many other people think that he's just a very misunderstood character. And I have had a couple people after the shows come up to me and say, just like, wow, what a complex character, and to just not take um that character at surface level and to to uh hear that the work that I'm doing at as an actor and to put into my character is being um received by the audience, and so you don't always get to hear that. And so it's very nice to talk to the um locals after or whoever's at the show. Yeah.
Lacey SquierSo it's kind of an interactive audience and an audience that's maybe more insistent on inserting their own perspective. And yeah, I didn't mean to say that in such a judgmental sounding way, but just like people like, let me tell you what I think about what you just did, or let me tell you about the last time I when I saw Oklahoma in New York City, or whatever. A lot of that, yeah. I love it.
Austin AndersonI think they're very grateful and then very thankful too. And I I don't know if y'all feel this way, but I felt from Thursday all the way to Sunday, the audience grew more fond of the show in a way. I feel like from Thursday, it was all opening night is always like a roar, but Sunday, I feel like Sunday was like our most lively audience at a at a 2 p.m. You know? So they they were loving it. So I think, and I think
Word of mouth makes the world go 'round.
Austin Andersonalso people say word of mouth is super big. Yeah, and I don't think I've seen it play more of a component in ticket sales than here. Yes. I think people I think people really, really trust the people in their community when they say, hey, if there's something to do this weekend, go do this.
Lacey SquierYeah. You know, I do believe that's something I have come to observe about life up here is at least as I see it, from my perspective, it's very in person. Yes. And obviously there's a lot, it's so cool that we have digital tools to help us connect, but the phrase I've been using for a while is word of mouth makes the world go round.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Lacey SquierCause we'll say, like, well, we put an ad in the paper, we have an ad in the radio, we put posters at the grocery store, we have all these things, but the message isn't getting out the way we want it to. And it's like, well, tell your friends and tell them to tell their friends. Like it's yeah, there's nothing quite like someone saying, Oh my gosh, have you seen Oklahoma yet? You have to go. Yeah.
Jacob StevensYeah.
Lacey SquierWhich is what I was doing all day Sunday because I went to the Saturday night show. Yeah.
Jacob StevensSo you're the reason we had such a life based on day crowd.
Lacey SquierYou're welcome. Um, I I can't take credit for that, but I do think that the work that y'all are doing stands on its own, and the program has such a reputation for being awesome. Um, but yeah, I was really struck by Oklahoma. I hadn't seen I didn't know the plot, and I found that it took me, I guess, spoiler alert for listeners who don't know the plot of Oklahoma, but my like my
Discussing themes in NLAA's Oklahoma! What made our local production unique?
Lacey SquierI clung to the like trope of wanting the underdog to succeed. And I just like I denied every clue that the plot gave that Judd was gonna be a gnarly character, and I just like thought it was gonna be like, oh, but what we want the quiet lonely man to have love, you know? Right. Like it took me so long to let go of the idea that Judd would be differently redeemed or redeemed at all, I guess, in the plot. Um and I really appreciate like Ian's director's note in the playbill because it set me up to be thinking about the themes of like, well, why is Judd's character this way? Right. And what like I don't know, it it made me think a lot about toxic masculinity and like the kind of cyclical nature of loneliness, and yeah, yeah, and I was so caught in thinking, like, well, why did Lori feel like she had to say yes to him anyways? Yeah. Um and why did Lori not give herself permission to just love Curly? You know, like I was really like totally grip gripped with those thoughts, and I got lost in them during the amazing dance scene.
Austin AndersonOh my gosh.
Lacey SquierLike, what a mesmerizing thing.
Austin AndersonAm I right?
Lacey SquierYeah, right. Totally, totally. And who was it Evelyn who's the choreographer?
Austin AndersonUh Catron.
Lacey SquierOh, Kat Tron, yes. Shout out to Katron because the choreography was dynamite.
Jacob StevensOh my goodness. Evelyn did the fight choreography.
Lacey SquierOh, that's where that's coming from. Well, I mean, bravo on the fight choreography.
Jacob StevensThose they feel so real.
Lacey SquierYeah.
Jacob StevensI mean it's not, don't worry.
Lacey SquierHow are you doing? Yeah.
Jacob StevensI mean, I'm healing out pretty well, so yeah.
Lacey SquierYeah, but I I thought, and then it ended very sort of like with this like little haunting note. Yes. And that stuck with me as well, because there's this, I mean, I don't know, like there's this sort of climactic terrible thing that happens at the end. Yes.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Lacey SquierAnd Aunt Eller is sort of like giving Lori a bit of like real talk, wake up call, grow up, like sorry about it, a little heart to heart. And then it ends with just Lori on stage and Curly calls her, but then so does Jud. Right? Yeah. And I was like, what?
Olivia SauerbergYeah, I think I talked a lot with Ian, of course, about this and like the dynamics of it all. Um and like Ian is really interested in kind of twisting the classic Oklahoma on its feet a little bit and like diving more into like the community aspect of Oklahoma and like doing a show like Oklahoma in a small town where everybody knows everybody already. It kind of like mirrors that in a way. Um, and also kind of approaching it a little bit as well from like a feminine perspective. Um, and the question of like, well, Lori's deciding whether she wants to be married for a decent amount of the show, in my opinion. And then it's like the well, the feelings towards Jud, the feelings towards Curly playing on that. And I think that the ending note was Ian's kind of brain child. And um Ian, I'm obviously I can't say it perfectly as it's his idea, but um, the idea that like in life you always make a choice, and like there's always this negative space of this other choice, and the echo of that and that timeline or like what could have been will always live in you, and you you go back to thinking about that and you oh all the what ifs, what ifs playing with that. And I think that like we also played with the fact that something so traumatic is happening on her wedding day right in front of her. This thing of shock of seeing the man that she loves. Spoiler alert, when this airs, the show will already be over. So if you haven't seen it, then you're not gonna see it. You missed it. Um you missed it, you missed it. But like seeing Judd die in front of her by the hands of the man that she loves, a man that she does have love for, I think, as well, is it's really interesting. And it was really fun to play in like the dichotomy of all of that and get into the nitty-gritty of what can just be silly sometimes. You know, people can just think of Oklahoma as beautiful music and like not that much depth to it. But at the end of the day, I think there's a lot more to it than that. Oh, yeah, and y'all infused a lot of depth.
Jacob StevensI I also think it's something to say about how um you know Judd dies and then it's like bam, they move on, like so quickly, and then the show's over. And there's really no, like you said, redemption for that. And so I think Ian's ending really acknowledges, like you said, that alternative choice that she could have made, and it doesn't just go forgotten, you know.
Lacey SquierWell, and I thought too, from a maybe like a a feminist perspective or from a different perspective, like what the fear and the sort of like potential harm that sort of gets um represented through the dream sequence and the sort of ominous nature of how the Judd character says Lori's name at the end, it's just like a reminder that like the risks of those behaviors aren't gone from our society. Absolutely, like it's sort of threatening sounding, and it's this looming threat, and it isn't gone. Yeah, right. And the Lori character will have to live with that forever. Yeah. Um, and curl and every character, right? Yeah. Um, and it also is just like one final note to the audience like, think about Judd. Yeah, yeah. People forget about Judd. Yeah, and that's sort of exactly why presumably he was showing up in society the way that he was. Yeah, because he got forgotten about. I don't know. That's like where my brain was going. And I I went like, yeah, I just went up to all of you probably afterwards and was like, I have to go home and read so many think pieces, I have so much to think about, which is why I like art. And that's what's cool.
Olivia SauerbergWhat Ian really wanted with this too is if people just wanted to come see the classic Oklahoma, you get to see that. But if people also came in with a perspective of like never being exposed to it or like wanting more from it, they could also glean that from the show. And it sounds like at least for you, it did its job.
Lacey SquierYeah, yes, yes. I think the people of Ely were, and if if I can use myself as an example, then definitely open to the contemplating the the themes and the topics presented. So thank you for doing the work of putting them on stage and making them so darn compelling as well.
Dovid AdlerWell, thanks for coming.
Lacey SquierYeah, thank you. Very kind words.
What should we know about NLAA's forthcoming production of Jesus Christ Superstar?
Lacey SquierSo tell me about JCS. Jesus Christ.
Austin AndersonI think you gotta go. No, you're the you're first, and then I'll but I'll betray.
Jacob StevensYou're the first perspective.
Austin AndersonWell, this is I think besides Oklahoma, everybody in the community, the second you say Jesus Christ Superstar, they either start singing at you, yeah, like or you they go, Oh my gosh, that's from when I was in school. You know, like they just go ballistic about it. And it's I I I wrote a paper about this in school that it was my favorite musical at the time, because I think it has such a new and fresh perspective on a story we all know all know the ending of. You know, I I think like who doesn't know at the at the end that Judas betrays Jesus and Jesus dies and resurrects, and you know, that's the world we live in. What? Oh my god. You know, spoiler people.
Lacey SquierI know I've actually never read the Bible, and recently someone sent me, you know, just like a silly thing on the internet of someone doing a book review of the Holly Bible, which I thought was super funny. Um, but I do in fact know the major movements of the story of the Holy Bible, so don't worry. No, exactly.
Austin AndersonIt's like I don't I don't think anyone is ever shocked at Jesus Christ superstar. Like, I can't believe he died.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Olivia SauerbergYou know.
Austin AndersonUm, but it's it's such an interesting show because I think it really hits home for you know a lot of people who are raised Catholic and and then Christian. But I think it's such a moving piece because. It it really falters this line between like, is this the actual story of like the actual telling of Christ? Or is it just this is some guy who has really gotten his like his his ego inflated and really does believe he is, you know, the the coming of the coming of Christ. And so from the perspective of Judas, it's like a really good friend of his who's like, you know, gone way too far in um his mission and what he sought out to do and what like he wanted to lead by an example has now gotten so out of hand he wants to stop it before he gets in trouble, and then ultimately it gets a little crazy for everybody involved. So you know it's it's it's really gripping and it's really short. You know, so it's it's it's super crisp and it's like an hour and 20 minutes. So it's just music.
Lacey SquierIt's just one act only.
Dovid AdlerIt depends. It depends how it's gonna be directed. It could be one act, but it could be two.
Lacey SquierYeah, so do you know what like Ian's the director?
Austin AndersonYeah, yeah, we'll probably have um two acts, I think. That would be my guess.
Lacey SquierYeah, well then we gotta get our cookies and lemonade.
Austin AndersonYeah, usually the meatback and all that.
Lacey SquierYeah, I'm always brainstorm cookies darting out of there. Like I want my piece of brownie and my little lemon. Yeah, we're we're bring my dollars for the 50-50 raffle.
Austin AndersonAndrea not being in Jesus Christ Superstar is a little worrisome because we we will miss pastries on Friday. Yeah, you know.
Lacey SquierWell, maybe listeners will hear this and they'll provide, you know, just drop off the pastries that you make to the Vermilion Fine Arts Theater at Minnesota North on Fridays. Yeah, or their sun up to Sunbound.
Jacob StevensSo yeah, on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
Austin AndersonYeah, yeah. Any old time honestly. We'll take it. We would be happy to sing for any any any form of um uh bakery or or or pastry. Yeah, please.
Lacey SquierWell, duly noted. Yeah, duly noted. Um Jesus, do you agree with the plot as presented?
Dovid AdlerYeah, I I love Jesus Christ Superstar because I think everybody knows these characters, like Austin was saying, or these people, but the show really uh humanizes the story and takes it from Judas's perspective and set with a rock score, yeah, like music that pretty much everyone can relate to. It just it makes the story so interesting and like it's gonna be a lot of fun to play with um all that.
Austin AndersonSo yeah, I can't wait.
Lacey SquierHow exciting. It's so exciting.
Austin AndersonI think what David said with like the music, I think from the second the the second song starts, there's like a really, really moving bass line in the second song, Heaven on Their Minds, that I think sets the tone for the rest of the show. It it really fills the the theater with uh I think like a sense of anxiety, you know. I I would say, you know, like the like that really gets really gets your blood. It gets a pulse with a big thing. Yeah, it gets your blood something a little bit. And you're like, oh god, this isn't um uh oh what a beautiful morning. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A banger from Oklahoma who don't know.
Olivia SauerbergAnd it's like it it kind of takes this story that most people have heard probably a lot of times throughout their life, and kind of makes it so compelling and like eye-catching, and there's like huge dance numbers, and like you got like Pilot and Caiaphas, and like all these characters that like you like people have heard about, and like now they're singing like an 80s disco jazz funk number like that. Um and like when I've the people in the community have like talked to me and like they've been like, Oh, like what are you doing this summer? And I tell them that every time I say Lloyd, they're like uh and then I say Mary Magdalene, and they're like, ooh, and so like it it's it's definitely I think a lot of people are very excited about yeah this show.
Austin AndersonAnd and Jacob's got a lot of really, really, really low stuff to sing. True, and if and another villain, right?
Jacob StevensI know another villain really that's scary.
Dovid AdlerVillain era.
Lacey SquierI don't know, but I know that you make an excellent villain.
Jacob StevensOh, thank you. Yeah, um, I just wanted you to say that. Um yeah, I play Caiaphas, and he is the villain. He's the high priest, and there's a whole gang of high priests, and um But I feel like you're the highest.
Lacey SquierI'm the gang leader, yeah.
Jacob StevensHe's the most important priest. Yes. Don't let don't let him fool you.
Austin AndersonHe is the highest priest of the high priests.
Jacob StevensYes, the highest of them all. Um yes, and my character sings very low in the bass clef, and it is unlike any role that I've it's it's the lowest singing role I've ever had to play in my life.
Lacey SquierSo is it like is that difficult? Is that challenging? Is that scary? What do you do?
Jacob StevensUm so it's it it depends on what I'm doing like around the show. Like I feel like this summer I really am not singing very high at all. Like the highest Judd sings is probably like a a D, you know, or in the trouble clef. So like it's um if I'm used to singing lower, it's it's easier to sing like when you're in that zone. Right, when I'm in that zone of bass clef type singing. But um yeah, I I'm super excited to to play the role and um hope hopefully, you know, it's hard to like really be loud and like resonant when you're down there. So um hopefully the mics work. Yeah, could you give us a a taste for the listeners at home? Uh you know, why not you sing heaven on our minds?
Lacey SquierYeah, we'll save it for the production so people gotta, you know, you gotta get your tickets, folks. You want to get them in advanced. Ely is not great at getting tickets in advance, but if you have a particular seat that you love to sit in, then you gotta do that. And I do. I always sit in the middle of the back row. And I wonder if people like when you're on stage, can you see the audience?
Dovid AdlerYes, fully.
Lacey SquierI feel like it must be I just every once in a while I realize, like, wow, what have I been doing with my face? Because half the time I'm sure I'm just like sort of like mouth agape, like in awe, or like just like RBF by accident, but just so in it.
Dovid AdlerAnything is better than sleeping. Yes, I'll say that.
Lacey SquierDo you make a point of like not looking?
Dovid AdlerNo, I look at people.
Lacey SquierDo you?
Dovid AdlerI make eye contact.
Jacob StevensYeah, I do not know. It's so fun. Yeah, and I hate knowing where specific people are sitting because my brain is always distracted. Well, I mean, like, that's fine. But like because I can't see the back row anyways, you know. Yeah, but like if I know that, oh, my friend's coming to the show, oh, and she's in the front row, house right. Oh, great. Now I'm gonna be thinking about that the whole time. And that's just me, but yeah, um, yeah.
Olivia SauerbergI don't ever like to look at people ever. I don't want everything, it's just a blur. I kind of keep my eye line always above, unless it's like directed, like in the last number of Oklahoma, we are like looking out into the audience a lot, and then it's like eh, at this point the show's basically over. Yeah, like whatever. But um, yeah, it's like a blob.
Austin AndersonBeginning of Oklahoma when we all start out and Truman is just singing into the void. Um, I don't think too many people are looking at Allie Hackham. So uh I look I look around at everybody in the front and try and catch uh who's there and who's not. So it's that's a fun little game I have. Yeah, only got four more chances for that.
Lacey SquierUh five.
Austin AndersonFive, five, five shows.
Lacey SquierLive shows in total.
Austin AndersonYeah, got to
Must-Do Activities in Ely: Have a leisurely afternoon on a pontoon
Austin Andersonsomething like that.
Lacey SquierWell, we had the pleasure of um hosting you all at Tuesday Group a couple weeks ago. So the entire cast or close to the whole cast was at Tuesday Group. It was a very chill experience. Y'all just introduced yourselves and then there was time for QA. And it sort of evolved into like what do the people of Tuesday group, like what does this group of locals think that y'all should be doing with your summer in Ely. So I wonder if we could talk through that list. I would love to.
Speaker 4Please.
Lacey SquierBecause I'm I'm just so curious, like, you know, what is it like to just drop into Ely for the summer? Because you're you're more than tourists for some of you. This is your third time being back, your second summer back, like so you're you're you're residence of this place, but it also is kind of like a short little stage or something, you know. Um okay, so I'm gonna go through the list. You tell me if you've done them, and tell me what you think. Let's just do a little bit of free associating, shall we? Pontoon boat ride. Yes, me and Jacob did it.
Jacob StevensWe uh Lindsay, what's her last name again?
Lacey SquierLindsay Lang.
Jacob StevensLindsay Lang has a pontoon and invited us whoever wanted to come in, like groups of like seven or eight on her pontoon on what lake was that? Do we know? Was it Vermillion?
Lacey SquierBurnside.
Jacob StevensBurnside, yes, and she was like, it's the best lake ever.
Lacey SquierAnd the people of Burnside love Burnside.
Jacob StevensYes, she was very proud.
Olivia SauerbergIt was the kindest gesture, and we had so much fun, and it was so cool to just like talk with her and like hear about her life and everything. It was so great.
Jacob StevensShout out, shout out, Lindsay Lang, and Lindsay Lang.
Lacey SquierIt might not make a lot of sense for listeners who are thinking about coming up to Ely and scoping it out to like call Lindsay Lang for a boat ride, but they can call uh Silver Rapids Lodge and Lakeview Lodge. So Silver Rapids Lodge is on White Iron Lake and Lakeview Lodge is on Chagwa. And for you all for the summer, if you ever want to rent a pontoon, those are places where you can rent them for a full day or a half day. Okay. It's super fun. And my friends and I sort of like, I mean, quote unquote, discovered this last year. And it's like, oh, I don't need to like become a person who owns a pontoon.
Speaker 4Exactly.
Lacey SquierI just need to have a cohort of friends who each takes turn paying for a rental, and I could go out multiple times this summer. Right. Exactly. So pretty life-changing realization.
Dovid AdlerIt's a great idea.
Lacey SquierI love a leisurely hangout on the water. Relaxing. Nothing like it. Sunbathing?
Dovid AdlerYeah. Nothing better.
Lacey SquierNothing better.
Jacob StevensI love this. Vitamin D and D, you know, I'm a good book. I'm original sorry. I'm originally from Minnesota, and like, you know, we have lakes down southwest Minnesota, but not like up here. You know, like it's just something special.
Lacey SquierWell, and we got the Boreal Forest. It's just it really is something special. Best to be taken in from a boat.
Austin AndersonOh yeah.
International Wolf Center & North American Bear Center
Lacey SquierUm, what about the International Wolf Center?
Austin AndersonHow can you not load those wolves?
Lacey SquierI have been.
Austin AndersonThey're so cute.
Olivia SauerbergThey're so cool. Feeding time. Did you go to that? It was the craziest thing I ever saw.
Lacey SquierWas it just utter madness?
Olivia SauerbergIt was madness.
Lacey SquierWas it like kind of scary?
Olivia SauerbergI just think they're so cute. And I was so interested, and I'd never really known a lot about wolves. I just I don't know. Um, but it was so cool to hear like their like mate, how they mate and like live. And I remember coming back, and this was not this summer, this was two summers ago. I like came back and I was like, everybody, this is everything you need to know about wolves, and it was awesome. Everyone's so interested. So it was it was awesome.
Lacey SquierWord of mouth makes the world go round.
Austin AndersonI feel like it's a great place to with people with young kids too. It's not as scary as the Bear Center, or you know, ages like four through ten, you know, like they're not as huge and and towering over the kids, like the you know, they're not as proximal, like at the bear center, you could just like exactly they're just right there, right? Um they're so well behaved too.
Lacey SquierSo you've been to both, yes, the wolf center and the bear center.
Austin AndersonOh my gosh.
Lacey SquierWhat a delight.
Austin AndersonWe actually had three people who were all new this year go, what was that? Like uh this past weekend, and they loved it. They said they hadn't I mean, I don't think they'd ever been to another bear center in America.
Lacey SquierBut I think um Nor have I now come here now I think about it.
Austin AndersonI think I've only seen a Wolf Center, a bear center, and it happened to be in Ely, Minnesota. So, you know, another great reason to come and visit. Um but no, they they said that it was the coolest thing and they would recommend it to anyone who's coming here for the first time. That's the first place I should check out is the Bear Center.
Lacey SquierYeah.
Austin AndersonI agree.
Lacey SquierAmazing. Well, and I just like it's great to be able to spend some time in like the curated sections, and they both have places for kids to play and coloring pages and sort of like passive activities, and then you get to see the animals like up close and personal. It's pretty
Meet the Root Beer Lady at the Dorothy Molter Museum
Lacey Squiercool. What about the Dorothy Multer Museum? Have you all been there yet? Where is that? I have not sure.
Olivia SauerbergThat but that's we've tried the root beer. We had got some welcome baskets from our amazing board, and they all had some of the root beer in it.
Jacob StevensSo I met one of the like interns because they they must hire interns for the summer, and they're staying, or one of them is someone staying by us, like where we live. And I met this group of girls, and one of them at the Arts in the Park um festival that we sing at every Tuesday.
Austin AndersonAnother great thing to come check out.
Jacob StevensPlease come listen to us sing. Um buy things. Um, but uh one of them gave me like a free uh root beer like chip. And I was like, I need to get my ass to the Dorothy Malter Museum. Yes, get root beer.
Lacey SquierSo if you've been to the Wolf Center, then you've driven past the Dorothy Malter Museum. So it's on the east side of town. Okay, and there's a beautiful stand of red pines that's very well maintained. Thank you, um, Dorothy Moulter Museum crew and collaboration they have with Vermilion um forestry students. But you would just turn south off of that main drag in town when you see a sign for the Dorothy Moulter Museum. And the story is, and Brett, you're welcome to chime in if you know this more accurately or better, but Dorothy Moulter was the last non-Indigenous resident of the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness. So when the wilderness was formed through an act of Congress in 1964, it was kind of like, all right, everyone, get out. And she was like, na dog, and and like really held out um for a long time. Yeah. And there's a lot more to the story. I don't know if there's any top line layers that should be added, lest I get in trouble.
Jacob StevensI think that's the new bumper sticker quote, na dog. Na dog, Dorothy Moultur.
Lacey SquierYeah, and like she was just an insanely strong woman, independent woman, and she operated, long story short, there's so much more nuance to be had, but operated this sort of like property where Boundary Waters trekkers would then go and either stay or help out or just visit, but they'd get like a bottle of root beer. Like, can you imagine being on like a 10-day trip in the wilderness? You have no cooler, no ice, no carbonated beverage of any kind, and you're just like living off of granola and boiled coffee. Right. And then you stumble across a place where you can pay a nickel for a bottle of root beer. That's crazy.
Dovid AdlerThat is crazy.
Lacey SquierAt my house, we play the game of answering the question, what would you do for a Klondike bar? Like in a very literal sense, like literally, what would you do for a Klondike bar?
Speaker 4Yeah.
Lacey SquierAnd I just think like if you're in the midst of a wilderness journey, like what would you do for a bottle of cold bubbly root beer? Oof, probably. And that is Dorothy Moulter. That's her legacy, root beer lady. Oh my god. So you gotta go to the museum, okay? It's on the list.
Dovid AdlerWe will check that out.
Ely's Historic State Theater -- $7 movies!!!
Lacey SquierUm, have you been to Ely's Historic State Theater?
Dovid AdlerYes. It's one of my favorite places.
Lacey SquierYou're so passionate about it. Tell us why.
Olivia SauerbergUm, I live in New York City. A movie in New York City is like $25. I'm an AMC Stubbs lister in the city. Where can you see a movie for $7? They got hot dogs, they got soda, they got, I mean, the a bar, like everything. It is anything. Yeah, but you can get a margarita.
Dovid AdlerYeah, yeah. I've never been to a movie theater that you can get alcohol or THC drinks.
Lacey SquierYou can get both at Ely State Theater.
Austin AndersonIt's amazing.
Lacey SquierIt's pretty exciting.
Austin AndersonYeah, I'm not a big movie watcher, but you know, what can you do for seven dollars these days? I don't think a lot. So I think bar that right, exactly. I think that gets me out the house. And you know, I I saw Toy Stories coming soon. I'll be sat. Maybe the minions.
Lacey SquierYeah, I mean I saw the Toy Story movie as sort of the the theme is like screens.
Austin AndersonYeah, iPads.
Lacey SquierI feel really it's like my child. I love talking about that topic.
Austin AndersonOh my gosh.
Lacey SquierScreen addiction.
Austin AndersonI I I heard that a bunch of um I guess we can call them youngins. Because I think all of us identify a little older in this room.
Lacey SquierUm but I identify as older, right?
Austin AndersonUm but I heard that they're they told their parents that they're um uh looking to find more time outside and off the screens because of Toy Story 5. Amazing. Come on, Disney. Save in 2026.
Lacey SquierFirst hoppers. Yeah, I know. Toy Story Five. Hoppers is of I haven't seen it.
Jacob StevensOh, it's you need to see Hoppers. It's so good.
Lacey SquierI'm sorry, but every time I go into Disney Plus, I just re-watch Beyonce's Blackest King.
Austin AndersonOh my gosh. I mean the truest thing about me. If there's something second to watch after that, it hoppers. It's hoppers. It is. I I got Dubid and Olivia, and I told y'all, not a movie person, but oh my goodness, I got Dubai and Olivia and Jacob. I said hoppers. I said, please go watch it. Oh my god.
Lacey SquierAll right, that's intriguing. Yes, that's intriguing.
Ely Steam Sauna ("sow-na")
Lacey SquierWell, maybe you can watch it before or after you go to the Ely Steam sauna.
Dovid AdlerYes, I've been wanting to go there.
Olivia SauerbergBut they followed me on Instagram last year. Amazing. I follow them back now, and I'm I'm looking to book an appointment.
Lacey SquierIt is so you can rent you, you there are public like steam rooms um broken down by sex, I guess you would say, the male or female space. But then you can also rent a sauna, like a smaller sauna space for your small group of whatever makeup you prefer. Yes. And both are um highly recommended cultural experiences.
Dovid AdlerEly culture?
Lacey SquierJust life culture, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I mean sauna culture is really important up here. There's a lot of, I mean, I think it's of course we have the indigenous peoples, you know, the Anishinaabe people and the Dakota before that who lived up here. And then when the logging started, that became the mining, then there were I think it 24 different like European ethnicities that were represented in the immigration to the Ely area. Chief among them were the Slovenians and the Finnish people. So Finnish sauna culture is alive and well, and it's also true that communities up here have a higher prevalence of people who live off-grid in dry cabins and don't have showers. So for often for people, like going to the steam sauna can be like how they access a shower.
Jacob StevensWow.
Speaker 4Wow.
Lacey SquierSo I myself have a shower at my house.
Jacob StevensUm, so I keep hearing you say sauna. Is that how y'all say it up here?
Lacey SquierI think it's how they say it everywhere. Oh.
Jacob StevensThat's like the right thing. That's where you're wrong.
Lacey SquierNo, I went to where I went to college, there was a sauna society, and um, those people were super annoying, but they made us all adopt what they considered the proper pronunciation. So I'm just I've just been sort of like yeah, wrist slapped into participating.
Jacob StevensMaybe we're saying No, I think we are, guys. I think we I think we are it's actually the Finnish pronunciation. Sauna. Sauna. Okay, well, there you go. I'll start saying sauna. You heard it here.
Lacey SquierSo you gotta get on the Ely steam sauna. It's the longest, um, it's the longest standing Ely business.
Speaker 4Ooh.
Lacey SquierUm,
Admire the d'Havilland Beavers at the USFS Seaplane Base on Shagawa Lake
Lacey Squierhave you been to the seaplane base to check out our U.S. Forest Service De Havilland beaver planes?
Austin AndersonI heard that's the coolest thing to do in Ely. I feel it.
Lacey SquierThe people of Tuesday group were really enthusiastic.
Austin AndersonThat was that was the prime event.
Lacey SquierWe're really proud that we have an international seaplane base here run by our U.S. Forest Service, and the local folks who are the pilots for those beavers are scouting fires, they're running rescue trips, they're fighting fires. So it's really important that we have them. And it's a it's a vintage airplane that they just like people revere. They don't make them better than the De Havelin beaver. And as you can see, I have drunk the Kool-Aid even though I know none of this as a primary source. I just lived here long enough to be able to say all of those things with utter conviction.
Austin AndersonThat's amazing. I believed you. I thought you flew one of those beavers.
Olivia SauerbergYes.
Lacey SquierI mean, we are we are close personal friends with our neighbors who do this for their work. But also, if you ever go to Seamers Park Beach, like where else can you go to just Like, I'm gonna go to the local park that's on the lake, and then I'm gonna watch an airplane take off and land on the water.
Jacob StevensRight, yeah, it's just kind of cool. That's so like Minnesota, yeah. Yeah,
Semers Park Beach & Adventures on the islands
Jacob Stevensyou know.
Lacey SquierHave you been to Seamers Park Beach yet? Does hanging out on a good, like busy day?
Olivia SauerbergYeah, I love it. We've gone to Ely Pride every year. Oh yes. Which is always at Seamers, and then right? People always go there on the 4th of July too, right? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Um, and then it's nice. We always have a few locals that are in the shows um with us, and they always they're always I there's something that now it's every Thursday that there's like a bonfire at Seamers or something. Uh Friday nights. Friday nights, yeah. So Seamers is a great. I'm looking forward to the weather getting a little bit warmer in July to be more acquainted with Seamers Beach.
Lacey SquierLikewise. I went there uh last night, Sunday night, and I was like, I'm freezing cold. Why am I here? And I still had a wonderful time, but there was no swimming to be had. Yeah. But I love Seamers Park Beach. I just love uh do you do you ever go hiking out of the islands out there?
Olivia SauerbergI've I've parlayed a little bit into the not not super far out, just in like the immediate one that's like kind of close, but yeah.
Lacey SquierMy favorite rock is on that island.
Find a favorite rock, maybe pillow rock??
Lacey SquierYou gotta you gotta find yourself a favorite rock, okay?
Austin AndersonOkay. It wouldn't happen to be related to Pillow Rock, would it?
Lacey SquierWell, I mean, I guess it's related to Pillow Rock as in they're probably like geological brethren. Right. Yeah. They probably are related for sure. But it isn't explicitly pillow rock, but I'm so impressed that you know about Pillow Rock.
Austin AndersonI mean, if it wasn't the seaplanes and the beaver planes that I'm that I'm not reading off of this paper I have in front of me. It has to be pillow rock.
Lacey SquierIt has to be pillow rock. I mean, 2.7 billion years old. That's old.
Dovid AdlerI thought somebody said four billion. Someone did say four billion years old.
Lacey SquierI think someone said four billion. And I'm just, I can't, I can't get around say for sure. But on at elie.org slash adventure, you can check out these like digital guides.
Speaker 4Uh-huh.
Lacey SquierAnd there's one, like there's itineraries for different subgroups, like an itinerary for families, an itinerary for like seasoned adventurers, okay, not like entry-level hikers. Um, and then one for history buffs, and it refers to Pillow Rock as a rare ellipsoidal lava flow formed beneath primeval seas 2.7 billion years ago.
Olivia SauerbergWow.
Austin AndersonIsn't Ely so cool? Incredibly cool. I don't think you get that in uh any part else of the country.
Lacey SquierIt is pretty
Ely Winton History Museum at MN North Vermilion Campus
Lacey Squiercool. So speaking of how cool Ely is, have you been to the Ely Winton History Museum?
Austin AndersonWe have. That's the one attached to the theater, right?
Lacey SquierYeah, yeah.
Austin AndersonYeah, yes. I was I thought I was alone on that one. Yeah, I was like, I don't know what other museum I've been to by myself, but yeah.
Olivia SauerbergSometimes we get like 15-minute breaks in between rehearsals, and we'll go and like walk around in there and check it out a little bit.
Austin AndersonYeah, no, and I I I like um what is it? They have such a dedicated team over there who are really I feel invested in upholding everything and making sure like you you follow the trail and what you need to do and the little pamphlet that they have. And I I had the sweetest lady, I don't remember her name, but she was like, if you could just after why uh checking this out, sign our little thing so we stay your guest book? Yeah, she'll we stay um relevant. And I was like, oh my gosh. And so did you sign it? Of course I did. I wanted to sign it twice over, but you know everyone go there now. Yeah, I I go in I go in there on breaks and stuff, and I love to check it out, and they have really, really sweet volunteer staff who just love to be there and tell you all about what's going on in there.
Lacey SquierYeah, honestly, so much of this town is run on volunteer love and labor.
Austin AndersonYeah.
Lacey SquierAnd, you know, I think it's definitely our organizations would love to grow, and it's like getting enough people to be patrons so that they can grow enough to hire more staff. Yes. You know, so like we want people to check these things out. Um, speaking of museums, there
Bois Forte Heritage Center & Cultural Museum
Lacey Squieris also the Boys Fort Cultural and History Museum. That's not in town, you would drive to um basically outside of tower.
Speaker 4Uh-huh.
Lacey SquierUm, but that's a really valuable wonderful learning experience. You can learn specifically about Anishinaabe history and heritage. Okay. So I put that on your list of things to do. And
Find Your Listening Point -- Sigurd Olson's Listening Point
Lacey Squierthen if you're headed that way out of town, you can also check out Sigurd Olson's listening point. So Sigurd Olson is, we kind of say like the Aldo Leopold of Northern Minnesota. Yeah. A very well-loved, um, well-reviewed, revered author, very prolific writer. Um, so you can see the cabin where he was riding from. Um, Burnt Side Lake.
Dovid AdlerThat's awesome.
Best Hikes in Ely
Lacey SquierUm, more in the hiking zone. Have you hiked the secret blackstone loop?
Dovid AdlerThat sounds really familiar, but I don't know.
Lacey SquierI don't think so.
Dovid AdlerWe've done hikes, but we haven't always been told what the hike is that we're doing.
Lacey SquierThat makes sense.
Dovid AdlerWe just go where we're told to go, and then we just do the hike.
Lacey SquierAnd you're like, behold the beauty.
Dovid AdlerYeah. I'm like, this is awesome.
Lacey SquierWish we've done twice.
Dovid AdlerYep. And then we did. What's the one where you walk up to the waterfall?
Olivia SauerbergDry falls.
Dovid AdlerLet's dry falls fast like this. Next on the list.
Olivia SauerbergWe did that once last summer, two summers ago. And I'm itching to go again because it's basically just a pool. Yeah.
Jacob StevensYeah. That one was awesome. But that's what I'm saying.
Olivia SauerbergDid you say you did that recently?
Jacob StevensYeah, I did that a a few weeks ago with Sydney Cox. She plays Gertie in Oklahoma. And the one who laughed. Oh, and Annas.
Lacey SquierThe one who laughed.
Jacob StevensYeah, the one who laughed. And Annis and Jesus Christ. Super sorry. Sorry, I didn't include that part. Um, but yeah, we had so much fun. It is like it took about like three hours. Because we went like around.
Lacey SquierOh, you went around?
Jacob StevensYeah. Yeah.
Lacey SquierOkay, you did the longer version.
Jacob StevensAmazing. We had a day where, you know, Judd and Gertie and Allie Hackham. I'll include you in this too. You know, they I think they were doing the ballet that week. And the ballet, if you haven't, if you're not informed, is like a really long The Oklahoma dream sequence.
Lacey SquierYes.
Jacob StevensYes, the the the dream ballet.
Lacey SquierIt's like 10 minutes long.
Jacob StevensYeah, 10 minutes long. It is. And so, you know, they have to choreograph all that. Well, Allie Hackham and Gertie and Judd, you know, we're not in it until like halfway through, really.
Dovid AdlerThat's not true. Okay. I danced with Gertie like the whole time.
Jacob StevensWe were doing something that week that we were a month.
Dovid AdlerI think the number.
Jacob StevensOh, okay. Well, whatever. Um but uh yeah, we had some time and we did that.
Olivia SauerbergYeah.
Lacey SquierI mean, it's kind of a rigorous hike. Like that's not like a entry level, that's not a beginner-level hike.
Jacob StevensYeah, I was I was not prepared for all the rocks. But you know, that makes sense, I guess.
Lacey SquierRacks. Did you wear shoes that protected your toes?
Jacob StevensUm, I think I wore some Reeboks and you know, called it good.
Lacey SquierYeah.
Jacob StevensYeah.
Lacey SquierYou got a workout for the day.
Jacob StevensI did. Yeah. It was great.
Lacey SquierAnd like Olivia said, there's like a pool at the end of the waterfall. Yeah. It's pretty majestic. And I do encourage you to check out, look up Secret Blackstone. And that I think is like the most underrated hike. Like everyone knows the Bass Lake Trail and the you know, going to dry falls is it's the it's not overrated. It is appropriately rated and highly lauded. But the Secret Blackstone loop has some really beautiful, obvious stops, like points of overlook, and just like a it could be like a three-mile, you know, get in, get your heart rate up, sweat a little, yeah. Those leg muscles, and have a lunch. So 10 out of 10, highly recommend.
Dovid AdlerAwesome.
Lacey SquierSudan
Soudan Underground Mine Tour
Lacey SquierUnderground Mind Tour.
Dovid AdlerI want to go so bad.
Lacey SquierMe and Dovit have been.
Dovid AdlerYeah, we went two years ago, and it was really, really cool.
Lacey SquierDid your guide sing to you? What?
Dovid AdlerSing like a song in specific, or just throughout the thing.
Lacey SquierI wasn't speaking metaphorically, but I could have been. I understand the question. Yeah. No, um at one point, he was just making jokes.
Dovid AdlerYeah, he was like a stand-up comedian.
Olivia SauerbergYou can think like, oh, the cave's gonna fall on you.
Dovid AdlerUm that sounds hilarious.
Olivia SauerbergSome people might not think it was funny as I did, but uh no, it was one of the coolest things ever. I felt like I was in Snow White.
Dovid AdlerMiles underground and it was freezing down there, terribly cold. Yeah, it was it was definitely one of my favorite days of that first summer I was here.
Olivia SauerbergI've never seen anything like that before in my entire life.
Dovid AdlerA singing tour guide.
Olivia SauerbergYeah, well, you could do that.
Jacob StevensThat's I was just gonna say it sounds like a jump for you. I was like, I'm a little intrigued. Singing tour guide of Ely.
Lacey SquierI yeah, the because the miners used to sing songs. Um, and the tour guide when I went, and I've talked about this so many times on the What's a Beaulie podcast, people are probably sick of hearing me talk about it, but like there's a moment where he turned the lights off, and so we're in like the you know, negative 27 floor to kind of talking about what it was like for the miners to be working under there, whether or not they bought their own candle or something, right? And then he sang us a portion of a song, and it was so haunting.
Dovid AdlerOh, wait, I did he did do that for us. I remember that. Yeah, it was really scary.
Lacey SquierYou blocked it out of your brain because it was so haunting, but I was I held on to it because the darkness, yeah, it was so dark and wait.
Austin AndersonDo y'all think that's where the song from Snow White comes from? Where the where they go on the mines. Yeah, and they go, Hi ho. Is that is that because they sing the mines? Maybe. Maybe I don't know what you're talking about. Come on. All right, after Hoppers, you have to watch Snow White. Sure.
Lacey SquierI think so. You know that's I think you figured it out, Austin.
Jacob StevensIs that where they whistle? Yeah. Uh whistle while you work. No, no, no, no.
Olivia SauerbergThat's when she's cleaning the house.
Jacob StevensOh yeah.
Olivia SauerbergYeah, it's they whistle and it's off to the house. They're always whistling.
Jacob StevensYes.
Olivia SauerbergThey're dwarves. Obviously, they're whistling.
Jacob StevensSeven. Seven of them. That's her thing. What? Let's move on.
Olivia SauerbergOkay.
Lacey SquierThere's only two more things on the list, y'all.
What do YOU think should be on the Ely-area tourism must-do list??
Lacey SquierAnd I I want to put a disclaimer for listeners. So this was again, it's a list of like must-do's for when you're experiencing Ely. If you have a little bit of time, if you take issue with this list, we would love for you to contact us and tell us what you think should be added. You have to go to the room. You have to go to Subway.
Dovid AdlerYou have to go to the Subway and Dairy Queen.
Lacey SquierUm, the ice cream place. Oh, well, I mean, there is a new ice cream place, and of course, Northern Expressions. Oh my god. Oh, I love Northern Expressions. You never get to go. But Sarah is so nice. Like, truly, one day, if you were to if you could choose a day that you wished she would be open at night, she would open for you. Really? Like she gave a Tuesday group presentation um literally about her love of Prince. Oh what? The artist.
Dovid AdlerWe love Prince. Prince. We could bond. Yes. We're in Minnesota.
Lacey SquierAnd she said that straight up. She was like, hey, if we're not open at a time when you wish we were, like, I'll seriously consider it. If I can do it, I would do it.
Olivia SauerbergBecause I've been there two times, maybe three times in all my summers here. And I think it's some of the best ice cream I've ever had.
Lacey SquierWow.
Austin AndersonIt's so I've always been a rehearsal.
Olivia SauerbergYeah.
Lacey SquierOh, you guys.
Austin AndersonNo my god. Okay. It's our five-minute warning. It's a five-minute warning. Thank you for listening.
Lacey SquierIt's been good. We still we can we're gonna just wrap it up. Two more things on the list. One of them is gonna be really obvious. But the second to
Take an Ely Folk School Class! (But what even is a folk school?)
Lacey Squierlast one, take an Ely folk school class. Or attend a free Ely folk school event.
Jacob StevensCan you explain what that means? The folk school?
Lacey SquierIt would be my pleasure.
Jacob StevensBecause I've never heard of that until I came here.
Lacey SquierI might accidentally you might give an inch, I might, I might take a mile. But the folk school movement dates back to the 19th century, and a Danish scholar and philosopher and theologian named NFS Gruntwig, but basically this guy had the genius idea that as Denmark went from a monarchy to a democracy, that probably the people who were formally peasants in the explicitly segregated society, in order to be able to participate in democracy, they needed to have access to certain education. And at the time, educational institutions were providing education in Latin because that was fashionable. And he had the novel idea that education should happen in the language of the people in ways that are relevant to the common people. So the folk school movement has taken on sort of this like tone of being like oriented towards handcraft, but preserving cultural heritage of the common people. So up here, it's a lot of like make your own paddle for paddling a canoe. Build a canoe in the Ojibwe style with birch bark. Um carve your own spoon. Learn how to. I mean, I don't think we have any knitting classes right now, but we had someone come from a different state and teach how to make a banjo out of a gourd. No wow. So it's like heritage crafts of the common people that you're trying to preserve.
Jacob StevensThat's really cool.
Lacey SquierUm, but then also there can be tones of like civic engagement and democracy literacy. So the folk school movement has many parts. The Ely folk school is 10 years old and has been very focused on like Iron Range and Wilderness Edge handcraft. So I teach things like pie making. What? Yeah. And this Slovenian delic delicacy called Petitsa. But because I'm really passionate about the sort of like philosophical and like foundations of the folk school movement, I'm teaching a series called Intro to Humanities. Okay. And we're doing dinner parties and reading a chapter of a book and discussing. Oh no. So one time we'll read a chapter of a book about humanism, like the philosophy of humanism. Um, a book called Your Brain on Art will be the second session. A book called Attensity about attention activism. I told you I was interested in the screen addiction conversation. Um, the fourth session, we're gonna read a chapter from Zen and The Art of Saving the Planet, and talk about like spirituality and religion. And then the fifth session, we're gonna talk about um the lyrics from Beyonce's Cowboy Carter album.
Olivia SauerbergOh wow.
Lacey SquierWait, I'm there. We're at the three of those. We'll put a link in the show notes.
Dovid AdlerYes.
Lacey SquierOkay, I did. Thank you for asking. I said too much. The final thing, and the Tuesday group didn't recommend this because it was obvious, but we'll make it explicit.
See a Northern Lakes Arts Association (NLAA) production!!
Lacey SquierBut if you're gonna be in town, you should make a point of seeing a Northern Lakes Arts Association production. You must. Please.
Dovid AdlerYeah, please, man.
Lacey SquierWe'd love to see you there.
Dovid AdlerWhat else are you gonna do?
Lacey SquierI mean, it's everything else top thing on the list. Uh-huh. Um, and in the most immediate sense, that would be Jesus Christ Superstar, or what I will now forever call JCS. Yeah.
Dovid AdlerJCS.
Lacey SquierUm, and if you can't, well, in addition to that, we have the Arts in the Park every Tuesday. Every Tuesday. Brightside park music at five, right? Yeah. There will be a production of Mean Girls. Yes. Yes, August 1st. And then something else.
Olivia SauerbergNewsies Jr., July 3rd. And you have your whole news basically your whole Newsies Junior team and Mean Girls team, right, sitting in this room with you. Yeah.
Austin AndersonPretty much.
Olivia SauerbergWow.
Austin AndersonWe're excited to have those all in the docket.
Olivia SauerbergYeah.
Lacey SquierThank you for being here. Thank you for engaging in this conversation with me. Thank you for having us. It's delightful.
Austin AndersonYeah. And you mentioned making pies, right?
Lacey SquierYeah.
Austin AndersonYou gotta talk to Ian about do you know the show Waitress?
Lacey SquierI've never seen it, but I know of it.
Austin AndersonYou you have to go watch it. What is it on, y'all? Where can you stream that? I'm not sure.
Jacob StevensThere's a pro shot something.
Austin AndersonIt's all about pies. Somewhere. Yeah. I feel like there's some other thing on it, but we'll see about that. I think you would.
Lacey SquierWell, isn't it? It's a Sarah Borellis. Yes. She's behind the music. Yeah.
Austin AndersonIt's music, and it follows the story of Jenna, who's um just a gal in, I think, from Georgia, but it's very nondescript.
Lacey SquierUm next episode, we're gonna really dive deep into whether or not Jenna's from Georgia.
Austin AndersonUm, but you know, she goes through a lot of um, what is it, a lot of hardship? I was gonna say emotional battles, but I think hardships are the the right word.
Lacey SquierAnd trials and tribulations, yeah, yeah.
Austin AndersonYeah, and finds um a lot of solace in her art as a um a pie maker. A pie maker.
Lacey SquierI do think pie is a very I always whenever I teach it, I'm teaching it like as a philosophy and sort of directing people towards like what poetic lessons you can glean from pie.
Austin AndersonOh, wait, so you gotta watch this show.
Lacey SquierYou would love it. You would love it.
Jacob StevensYou would love it. This is right, you are the target audience in that show. I think you might be Jenna in real life.
Lacey SquierYeah, I see. Well, I'll I'll I'll work on taking singing lessons from Ian so I can hear it right. Yeah. Just in my car, of course. Right. Um, well, okay, then when we get the surveys about what NLAA should do in the future, I will be sure to request waiting. Waitress.
Austin AndersonWaitress.
Lacey SquierOh, waiting is something different. What is waitress. Okay.
Dovid AdlerWaiting for a good idea.
Lacey SquierAny any final thoughts for the people?
Austin AndersonThank you for having us. Yeah. Please um if you see this in the time frame from when uh Jesus Christ Superstar is happening in Ely, please come out and check us out. And if you just miss us, I'm sure Me and Girls will be open. So come see me and Girls.
Lacey SquierYeah. And we'll put the link in the show notes directly for people to be able to buy tickets. All right, that is all for this episode. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for being here. Our special guests, Olivia, David, Austin, and Jacob. What a pleasure. Um listeners, thank you for listening. The Wilderness Edge podcast is produced by Brett Ross of Boreal Roots Media, and the music is made by Nick Allen. This podcast is brought to you by Boundary Waters Connect, which is the economic and community development project of Northeastern Minnesotans for Wilderness. You can learn more by visiting boundarywaters connect.org.
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